View Issue Details
| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0000531 | T99X171.00 SKB Eagle | HW | public | 2019-03-04 10:48 | 2019-06-27 14:18 |
| Reporter | Assigned To | Due Date | 2019-03-06 11:33 | ||
| Priority | immediate | Severity | s1-catastrophic | Reproducibility | N/A |
| Status | closed | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Summary | 0000531: [EAGLE] Extraction test between adapter and DC jack | ||||
| Description | Hi Sean SKB asked us to below situation ------------------------------------------------------------------------- when the adapter is pulled out Eagle board, the adapter easier extract than old settopbox. (the old settop box has different adatper and DC jack) SKB request what is the measured value of extraction strength? (the SKB's criteria is minimum 1.4Kg / F. average 10 times value) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- check please and let us know the result. | ||||
| Tags | shson | ||||
| Attach Tags | |||||
| User List |
(ALTech) BY Lee , |
|---|
|
|
We will arrange the test at NN HWQA team. Since NN HWQA has no power adapter on hand, we need take some time to deliver the adapter. Will update you the result soon. |
|
|
The extraction spec. of DC jack is 3N ~ 30N (0.3059 ~ 3.059 Kgf) which is a wide range of spec. Will need to verify the actual test data to see if the result is passed of not. |
|
|
Hi Sean If the extraction and insertion spec of DC JACK is 3N~30N, this DC jack cannot apply to Eagle board. How about changing to other DC jack which meet SKB's criteria. |
|
|
Hi SB, The test result of DC jack is fail.(see test result as attached) We will work with supplier to look into this issue and find alternative part in parallel. |
|
|
Hi Fu-Chiang, Please work with vendor/ME to look into this issue. |
|
|
Please be noted that this requirement also impacts to material preparation and tooling schedule. |
|
|
Hi Sean You said that the Dc jack extraction test is fail (4/03). Do you have any solution? |
|
|
Hi SB, For second time solution by vendor, the test results are still fail. 3 pcs are pass of 5 samples, 2 pcs are fail. We talked with vendor about the improvement, this strucutre seems to approach limitation and cannot further improve. Vendor suggests us to change new structures for DC Jack extraction force issue due to the currently structure is single metal spring in DC Jack. Please refer to attached picture and second time test report. Maybe that needs to discuss about new structure of DC jack and new plan and cost. |
|
|
Hi Mr. Yoon and SB, We need your help to discuss with SKB whether they accept cost up based on the current situation by 4/20. If the cost up is possible, we'll discuss with our vendor to proceed with customized tooling. *Please be noted this issue will impact the MP schedule. |
|
|
Hi Sheila, Sean. I cannot make my dicision, because there is no test report of new structure. 1. Is the new structure of DC jack perfectly pass? 2. How much does the cost up exactly? and this agenda should not be discussed with SKB. because the FXN/ALT cannot meet the SBK's spec. we should solve this problem each other |
|
|
Hi Sheila, Sean I have additional Question 1. the original spec of DC jack is DC jack is 0.3059 ~ 3.059 Kgf ( you update 3/11) 2. what is the second time solution of DC jack spec or tolerance. is it same to original or not? |
|
|
Hi SB, currently our vendor is evaluating the new solution. I've discussed with them and it seems they need more time to simulate. Therefore, the updated target date is 4/22 that FXN provides the quotation on this matter (Tiffanie will quote to Emma directly). |
|
|
Hi SB, Update the second time improvement datasheet provided from vendor. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi Sean, Fu-chiang Young I saw the datasheet. according to the datasheet, the unmating spec is 1.0kg/f. this product cannot apply to Eagle |
|
|
Hi SB, Yes, the second time improvement DC Jack still cannot meet to 1.4kgf, while the original structure had approached to limitation. So we require vendor to fix new structure to meet 1.4kgf. We will update new design structure and spec later when vendor provides the corresponding reports. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi Sean, Fu-chiang Young Can you update the exact schedule of new design structure and spec? |
|
|
Hi SB, Currently vendor estimates L/T and schedule. When vendor updates, we will update ASAP. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi SB, Update the latest DC Jack extraction test report. The test looks good and pass with new design structure of DC Jack. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi Fu-chiang, Sean Thank you for your report I want to see and check the datasheet "SHD-5014SGLH6-ES-L2-TR". please update the datasheet "SHD-5014SGLH6-ES-L2-TR" |
|
|
Hi SB, The new datasheet needs to wait until the reliability test finished at 5/28. We will update ASAP. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi SB, Update the datasheet of new design DC Jack as attached file. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi Fu-chiang, Sean I reviewed the datasheet. there is no specification of extraction force. there is just only performace test result. Your test result is pass but the tolerence is much wider. Please check the vender's specification. |
|
|
Hi Fu-chiang, Sean SKB request that test picture more detaily. Refer to below picture and please update your report |
|
|
Hi SB, I updated the report at 30th May, and the mating and unmating force is as following picture. Could you please point out which tolerence is too wider? I will inform the vendor to confirm the data. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi SB, Here is the latest DC Jack datasheet from vendor. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi, Fu Chiang there is no specification of withdraw force in the latest datasheet. your test result of extraction force is much wide. see the below picture. If there is no maximum spec, some dc jack is very difficult to extract |
|
|
Hi SB, DC Jack vendor has updated datasheet, and please find the attached file. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi Fu Chiang according to datasheet, there is no specification. the old version datasheet, the specification is exactly added. (see below the picture) but the final version is only added performace test result. |
|
|
Hi SB, 4-2 part of the datasheet is the spec. Vendor replied the put the spec parameter at 4-2. This spec is follow EIA standard. Please see the attached picture. Thank you. |
|
|
Hi Fu chiang OK. I finish the datasheet agenda. thank you |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2019-03-04 10:48 |
|
New Issue | |
| 2019-03-04 10:48 |
|
Status | new => assigned |
| 2019-03-04 10:48 |
|
Assigned To | => (HW) Sean Chiang |
| 2019-03-04 10:48 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) SY Yoon | |
| 2019-03-04 10:49 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) Philip | |
| 2019-03-04 10:49 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) Eric Kim | |
| 2019-03-04 10:49 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) Jewoo Lee | |
| 2019-03-04 10:49 |
|
Issue Monitored: (PM) Sheila Tu | |
| 2019-03-04 10:49 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) JW Kim | |
| 2019-03-04 21:07 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Note Added: 0001306 | |
| 2019-03-11 16:58 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Issue Monitored: (RD) Fu-chiang Young | |
| 2019-03-11 16:58 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Issue Monitored: (HW) Jim Liang | |
| 2019-03-11 17:14 | (HW) Sean Chiang | File Added: DC JACK EXTRACTION SPEC.png | |
| 2019-03-11 17:14 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Note Added: 0001440 | |
| 2019-03-11 21:33 |
|
Note Added: 0001447 | |
| 2019-03-12 14:56 | (HW) Sean Chiang | File Added: DC Jack Extraction Force .xlsx | |
| 2019-03-12 14:56 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Note Added: 0001461 | |
| 2019-03-12 14:58 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Assigned To | (HW) Sean Chiang => (RD) Fu-chiang Young |
| 2019-03-12 14:58 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Status | assigned => acknowledged |
| 2019-03-12 14:58 | (HW) Sean Chiang | Note Added: 0001462 | |
| 2019-03-12 15:26 | (PM) Sheila Tu | Note Added: 0001463 | |
| 2019-04-09 21:55 |
|
Note Added: 0001929 | |
| 2019-04-09 21:56 |
|
Priority | normal => immediate |
| 2019-04-09 21:56 |
|
Severity | s2-severe => s1-catastrophic |
| 2019-04-17 19:03 |
|
File Added: test report V2.png | |
| 2019-04-17 19:03 |
|
File Added: 20190409.jpeg | |
| 2019-04-17 19:03 |
|
Note Added: 0002065 | |
| 2019-04-18 09:05 | (PM) Sheila Tu | Note Added: 0002069 | |
| 2019-04-18 09:08 | (PM) Sheila Tu | Note Edited: 0002069 | |
| 2019-04-18 09:43 |
|
Note Added: 0002071 | |
| 2019-04-18 10:24 |
|
Note Added: 0002072 | |
| 2019-04-18 11:02 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) BY Lee | |
| 2019-04-19 16:35 | (PM) Sheila Tu | Note Added: 0002101 | |
| 2019-04-22 10:23 |
|
File Added: SHD-5014SGLH6-ES-L2-TR SPEC20190419_ver1.pdf | |
| 2019-04-22 10:23 |
|
Note Added: 0002107 | |
| 2019-04-22 10:54 |
|
Note Added: 0002108 | |
| 2019-04-22 11:29 |
|
Note Added: 0002109 | |
| 2019-04-22 11:43 |
|
Note Added: 0002110 | |
| 2019-04-22 15:36 |
|
Note Added: 0002114 | |
| 2019-04-29 16:41 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) Juyoung Park | |
| 2019-05-27 09:41 |
|
File Added: Extract Force Test Report for BFX-AT100_20190524.pdf | |
| 2019-05-27 09:41 |
|
Note Added: 0002599 | |
| 2019-05-27 10:05 |
|
Note Added: 0002600 | |
| 2019-05-27 11:34 |
|
Note Added: 0002601 | |
| 2019-05-30 08:07 |
|
File Added: SHD-5014SGLH6-ES-L2-TR SPEC20190529第二版.pdf | |
| 2019-05-30 08:07 |
|
Note Added: 0002634 | |
| 2019-05-30 10:46 |
|
Tag Attached: shson | |
| 2019-05-30 10:46 |
|
Issue Monitored: (ALTech) SH Son | |
| 2019-05-30 10:50 |
|
File Added: dcjack_unmating.gif | |
| 2019-05-30 10:50 |
|
Note Added: 0002635 | |
| 2019-05-30 10:58 |
|
File Added: extraction_test_picture.gif | |
| 2019-05-30 10:58 |
|
Note Added: 0002636 | |
| 2019-06-13 11:58 |
|
File Added: DC Jack 0529.png | |
| 2019-06-13 11:58 |
|
Note Added: 0002701 | |
| 2019-06-14 19:10 |
|
File Added: SHD-5014SGLH6-ES-L2-TR SPEC.pdf | |
| 2019-06-14 19:10 |
|
Note Added: 0002706 | |
| 2019-06-18 21:14 |
|
File Added: unmatingforce.gif | |
| 2019-06-18 21:14 |
|
Note Added: 0002750 | |
| 2019-06-21 19:35 |
|
File Added: SHD-5014SGLH6-ES-L2-TR SPEC_0621.pdf | |
| 2019-06-21 19:35 |
|
Note Added: 0002796 | |
| 2019-06-24 11:51 |
|
File Added: dcjack_spec.gif | |
| 2019-06-24 11:51 |
|
Note Added: 0002799 | |
| 2019-06-26 15:52 |
|
File Added: final_0621.jpeg | |
| 2019-06-26 15:52 |
|
Note Added: 0002813 | |
| 2019-06-26 16:25 |
|
Note Added: 0002814 | |
| 2019-06-27 14:18 |
|
Status | acknowledged => closed |
| 2019-06-27 14:18 |
|
Resolution | open => fixed |








